BEST PROJECTED IMAGE FOR HT AT CINEMACON 2019!!!!

[Peter CINERAMAX]

The server that comes with the projector is the 6th generation GDC SR-1000, i like it because since the movies are loaded into cache memory you do not pay for hard drives if you are using it only via hdmi, just load 2 tear worth of Movie Trailers in DCI for show and unplug the usb or sata removable drive.


Funny as I was cleaning up the image as it was hazy with photoshop, i removed blue and the image got way sharper.LOL What we have been talking about perceived MTF Improvements by eliminating blu push. Okay no more beating that dead horse.LOL.

[Reddig]

The 608 sounds very impressive Peter.

[Peter CINERAMAX]

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I argue that unfiltered blue phosphor violently affects my circadian cycles. More research is warranted.Chris Cooley used to write to me what do you have against the 5000 that you find it so offensive, go sell wallscreens in Miami, i did take his advice, but now we know what made me so sick.


It is all about Eye comfort, eye comfort! The r608 is the very first time a projected image exudes this level of eye comfort. And please 5000 current owners, stop regurgitating that the contrast on a r608 is only 10,000 until one's lens is modified, because i assure you it will clock 15,000:1 with a rather simple mod using an iris made with this wonderful Israeli spy satellite optics darker than black material. Like Alan does, I saw his r815 in it was doing just that. Much better than at cinemacon's and with the ENVY's upcoming tone mapping which i saw in jriver, the r608 is a videophiles dream.


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I reiterate, take all those 5000's and bulldoze them into the bay, the future is this projector! And the Barco Light Steering if they could add the dynamic dimming that I was told by the projector czar at barco was rather easy to do.

[donaldk]

Just give them 5Ks to us poor folks, LOL. No need for dumping anything in the sea.

So there is light eating filtering in the 608, that is not in the 5K? As both are fitted with blue pumped laser diodes and phosphor for the red and green and derived colors.

[Art Sonneborn]

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I argue that unfiltered blue phosphor violently affects my circadian cycles. More research is warranted.Chris Cooley used to write to me what do you have against the 5000 that you find it so offensive, go sell wallscreens in Miami, i did take his advice, but now we know what made me so sick.


It is all about Eye comfort, eye comfort! The r608 is the very first time a projected image exudes this level of eye comfort. And please 5000 current owners, stop regurgitating that the contrast on a r608 is only 10,000 until one's lens is modified, because i assure you it will clock 15,000:1 with a rather simple mod using an iris made with this wonderful Israeli spy satellite optics darker than black material. Like Alan does, I saw his r815 in it was doing just that. Much better than at cinemacon's and with the ENVY's upcoming tone mapping which i saw in jriver, the r608 is a videophiles dream.









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But the wet dream is the Christie ..still hoping.

[donaldk]

I guess Peter gave up hope a long time ago, on Christie and HDR availability.

[Art Sonneborn]

I'm starting to also. Too quiet for my comfort.


Art

[donaldk]

We have had discussions with Christie well before Nigel. It has been so long that I can't even remember if it has been half a decade, or longer, Peter seeing a Non-Dolby version at NAB201?. I was later told by Christie that it was free to sell the original system to other markets outside commercial exhibition market, that was exclusive to Dolby. That started the circus again. Then there was this smaller non-Dolby machine again. That got nixed again, to resurface last year. So, we'll wait till Chrisie says here's a working demo to try, lol.

[Peter CINERAMAX]

I guess Peter gave up hope a long time ago, on Christie and HDR availability.
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Hi Art, but there is something very not oled like in general on all 3p projectors, to get OLED like surrealist colors you need 6P. The Dolby projector is very similar to the Christie you talk about but Dolby converts it to 6P. If I was you, that would be the wet dream for me. The thing is you can only rent it. But it is available now.

[Art Sonneborn]

Hi Art, but there is something very not oled like in general on all 3p projectors, to get OLED like surrealist colors you need 6P. The Dolby projector is very similar to the Christie you talk about but Dolby converts it to 6P. If I was you, that would be the wet dream for me. The thing is you can only rent it. But it is available now.

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Peter,
I get it ,but after seeing the Christie I was really hoping that by now (or before this) we would have had something from them. The total quiet would indicate bad news on the production go ahead IMO . I just can't see me stacking again with something like the 608 , going back to 1080 and lamps with the duo, or having no low end performance with the Barco light steering. All end up as giving  something to get something not even considering the financial drain.


I already had one 5000 when the suggestion to stack came so it wasn't as difficult.


Art

[donaldk]

The only one to get any information from Christie it seems is Nigel.

[Art Sonneborn]

I had been communicating with Christie people directly about the device before I met Nigel but that has dried up.


Art

[donaldk]

It should read 'still gets'.

[Art Sonneborn]

Good to know.


Art

[Peter CINERAMAX]

At a thread in AVS Nigel shoots down the r-608. Poor lad is partially blind, minor partially but partially!


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Originally Posted by donaldk
Perhaps preview at the last Local show next February?Possibly

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Originally Posted by donaldk
@mani you know whom to ask about the 608 demo at ISE, since it was demonstrated at the following Cinemacon, Peter raving about that showfloor public demo, I doubt an NDA from that initial demo is still in place.


He responded:


"I hate to say it but the SONY SRX-R608 really isn't anything to get excited about. The deal-breaker is the lousy black floor due to the paltry 10,000:1 peak ON/OFF contrast performance. This is less than half the peak ON/OFF contrast performance of the SONY 995ES and 885ES, and about 2/3 the performance of the SONY 5000ES. This represents a significant step backwards in contrast peformance and black floor as compared with the these other SONY projectors. And the 1% - 5% ADL contrast performance is similarly disappointing. Furthermore, with such poor luminance dynamic range this also means that the HDR performance is lousy as well. Where it should be noted that HDR = HIGH Dynamic Range, not LOW dynamic range! Wherein, 10,000:1 is not high; it's low... Sorry! At this price point this kind of performance is wholly unacceptable.In short, no thank you and hard pass! "


This idea of making a projector look like a flatscreenTV in terms of HDR contrast at all costs is fucking stupid me thinks. With the exception of the Eclipse, but it is p3 so thread carefully as you may not like the overall color saturation that the r-608 has.


This projector with an lens iris and the ultimate screen is capable of doing 15,000-1 on the worlds best optical screen that redirects the light to the audience without hotspotting and zero acoustical interference not to mention this screen will not light up the sidewalls thus lowering the kickback light affected floor that is very visible in bat caves. An honest 15,000-1 projector is more than excellent for 5% adl scenes. What this projector has over the 5000 is absolute MTF, and perfect d-cine colorimetry. A pristine 35mm image.


Yet he sat there at a duo demo ooing and aweing about the picture that lacks the 2 ingredients that i refer to above. This guy is oblivious to these facts, he was perfectly happy with cyan kaleidescape screens that should be a light royal blue NOT CYAN, he is perfectly happy with the optics of cheap consumer projectors and it does not even phase him. Arrow is lacking a videophile's true optical compass, obsessing instead by specs that degrade the eye comfort of the experience. Dangerous lad indeed he is screwing videophiles with this recalcitrant spiel.